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:what is the dynamic of michelle obama and barack. >> what's fascinating is how it changed in the white house. when you were interveeg the president on cbs i was struck by what he said had happened though his relationship in the white house. it was consistent when i had heard which is the white house does tend to draw presidential couples together. the presre is extraordinary. only person you can trust let down your guard with. obamas such enormous challenges. before the white house they had more of a dialectic. this was fascinate bg their relationship. the president believed politics could be a vehicle for change and the political life could be livable. the first lady did not believe that politics was a valid viable way of creating social change, that political life was livable. all these years it's almost like their marriage is an extended debate wher they're trying to figure out the answer to those questions. she, i think, has been converted. michelle obama who hesitated about moving to the white house, who felt unease with politics had a rough first year behind-the-scenes as first lady. has found s
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